[WhackMushroom @ Jul 26th 2007 7:57AM]

to bad target has chosen blu-ray exclusively:

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=349

[Liqwid @ Jul 26th 2007 10:03AM]

But they will still carry HD DVD movies. It's not exclusivity. Sony's just paying for end caps... You can still buy the Toshiba HD-A2 and the Xbox 360 HD DVD player add-on on their web site. The 'exclusivity' isn't all that true.

This was in the press release: "We are not proclaiming one format vs. the other as the preferred consumer technology, and software will continue to be available to our guests in both the Blu-ray and HD-DVD format," Target spokeswoman Brie Heath said.

[WhackMushroom @ Jul 26th 2007 9:32AM]

if im joe public looking for a new movie player at target and the high def choice is a blu ray player next to everything else in the related category that sounds like a pretty exclusive deal to me. the end caps will have software but the choice of an in store hardware choice is targets not bought.

[chadow @ Jul 26th 2007 9:40AM]

That sounds like "exclusivity" to you???? You might want to bust out the Websters Dictionary.

[WhackMushroom @ Jul 26th 2007 10:10AM]

physically there will be a blu-ray player for sale and no HD-DVD player for sale .... whats the argument here?

[paloooz @ Jul 26th 2007 11:25AM]

You act like that is a good thing. Why should the stores and Sony choose who wins the format war? Why don't they just let us choose for ourselves?

Then again, Sony is paying the movie studios shitloads of money, and if they support Blu-Ray then I guess we don't have a choice. If everyone in the world but the movie industries and Sony, supported HD-DVD. What movies would we be buying?

I guess in the end, Sony and the movie studios will decide who wins and who doesn't.

[WhackMushroom @ Jul 26th 2007 11:47AM]

your right about your first question .. i do have to agree with that sentiment.

[chadow @ Jul 26th 2007 11:41AM]

Its just that saying Target is going BD 'exclusively' isn't correct, as they will still sell HD-DVD movies and if nothing else, the Microsoft HD-DVD player. Thats all. That takes the word "exclusive" completely out of the equation. All of this aside, Target can just as quickly sell a HD-DVD player at any point in the future if they so desire. As can Blockbuster with rentals.

I don't know why I lean toward the hope for success of HD-DVD, but I think I am just getting so sick of every decision in the format battle being bought by the BluRay camp with all this bullshit "exclusive" crap.

If people wouldn't have bought the PS3 until decent games came out for it, I think BluRay would already have lost. It infuriates me that the quality HD home movie future will most likely be decided by a (crappy) "game" console, if thats what you want to call it. In my eyes its nothing more than a (crappy) BD player. They know that without the PS3 the format is dead.

[paul246 @ Jul 26th 2007 3:41PM]

@chadow

why are you saying the only reason bd is winning is because sony's paying everyone off? the movie studios have chosen BD because it harder to crack than HD. the movie 300 on HD-DVD has been floating around the net this week. i dont see any BD movies getting ripped and posted.
and as far as letting the consumers decide instead of the retailers, the consumers already have. BD discs outsell HD. FACT.
so take that HD-DVD out yur ass and flush it down the toilet already cause thats where HD is headed.

[chadow @ Jul 26th 2007 4:33PM]

Paul, your post wasn't witty enough or interesting enough for me to respond, other than responding to tell you that.

[paul246 @ Jul 26th 2007 4:42PM]

chad,your post wasn't witty enough or interesting enough for me to respond, other than responding to tell you that.

[WhackMushroom @ Jul 26th 2007 5:34PM]

same thing with the games ... when people ask why did sony force blu-ray on the ps3 .. hit the torrents .. any dvd based game that comes out is up there.

bunch of thieves and pirates they all be' arrr.

[Zac @ Jul 26th 2007 5:28PM]

Both HD-DVD and Blu Ray have already been compromised. Every movie that is released on both formats is ripped and re-encoded with x264. The end result is 4 GB or 8 GB movies (that fit on a DVD or DL DVD) in either 720p or 1080p, depending on length of movie. The Dolby Digital or DTS soundtrack is also preserved and re-encoded at a lower bit rate. You can find these on usenet. I've downloaded lots and the quality is fantastic!

[paul246 @ Jul 26th 2007 5:37PM]

zac, i said that BD was HARDER to crack. i know what usenet is and ive used torrents. have YOU seen the BD copy of 300? didnt think so. nor have i seen any newer releases of the BD being uploaded. but i do see a lot of HD-DVD being uploaded. now if you were a movie studio executive, which format would you want your movie on? would you really want to loose a lot of money in sales this early in the format wars?