[JAmerican @ Jun 24th 2007 8:31PM]

The truth of the matter is that the Xbox 360 hardware setup sucks. They went from a visual design aspect instead of a maintainable design aspect. Too many vents are covered by either the system standing or the HDD. Leaving only a few holes in the system to vent the air out. The fans are covered by small holes in the inner casing which is not necessary. The X-clamp design just begs for something to go wrong because it influences the board to warp. They should have looked at how computers are made and designed their system that way. Just like how the PS3 is designed. I like the 360 for its games and I own one so I am not a PS3 fanboy but the hardware is just much more solid. Look on YOuTube for the opening of both cases to see what I mean. Remember. Both CPU processors in PS3 and 360 are the same speed although the cores are setup differenly. Look at how the PS3 is cooled and how the 360 is cooled. Now tell me which is half-@$$ed.

[Faisal @ Jun 24th 2007 9:49PM]

that's wat i've noticed about the PS3 too. when i saw the video of the PS3 being opened when the PS3 launched in Japan i was AMAZED. That is why PS3 stays so cool. Sony's engineers are smart, they know that bigger fans cool better AND put more load on the motor. When the fan blades put more load (weight) on the motor, the motor goes slower thus being quieter, but at the same time helps it keep quiet. That's why 360 is SO loud. My little brother has a 7600GT graphics card in his PC and DAMN that thing is LOUD on full load because it has a tiny fan.

[JJ @ Jun 24th 2007 10:30PM]

That's what I've noticed as well about the PS3 being taken apart. It was quite well built for a video game system. There were metal plates for RF interference shielding between the wireless LAN, the PSU, and the board. The Emotion chip, RSX chip, and the main CPU are cooled via a large heatsink, of which two are connected to it via heatpipes. A large fan cools the heatsink in turn. Whenever my friends turn on their 360 and then turn on the PS3, the PS3 is quieter. They've also noticed that the PS3 was cooler than the 360. They put their hands near the vents and the 360 was already pretty hot after 5 to 10 min. of turning it on. My friends are already on their second 360 unit. The first died a year after they bought it. The second 360 unit is already experiencing problems and it's only three months since they bought it. So far, the current problems is graphics corruption while playing games for thirty minutes and the noise of the DVD drive increasing after watching a DVD movie for two hours. They haven't noticed discoloration or screen blackouts, yet. I wouldn't be surprised if they replace their 360 unit for a new one two to four months from now. Microsoft really does need to rethink how they design their systems and look to Sony and even Nintendo for inspiration.