@ ph: You've got it backwards, the PS3 has the RSX graphics card in it with 256mb of VRAM, whereas the 360 has 512mb of RAM that's being shared by both the processor and the on-board graphics chips. Not to mention the fact that each core of the Cell processor has a small amount of RAM that it can use. Technically, the PS3 has a much better chance of delivering better performance, it's up to the developers to deliver on the promise. If Sony provides good documentation then we could see the PS3 coming out with games that kick the crap out of 360 games within the next year or two. Especially if they release a revised version of the PS3 that has a faster Blu-Ray drive in it, allowing for much faster transfer speeds and shorter load times without game content installation to the hard drive.
"Actually, many people consider the xbox 360s processor to be superior to the PS3, as well as the fact that the xbox has dedicated video ram."
That's not true at all. This isn't an opinion thing, it's either fact or fiction. And it's a fact that the PlayStation 3 is a technologically superior machine compared to the Xbox 360. Both the Xenon and CBEA are based on the POWER architecture. The Cell's PPE alone is already one-third of the Xenon's total power, and then you've got the seven SPEs. And based on calculations, the Cell is around twice as powerful as the Xenon, doing more than 2 TFLOPS.
Also, the PlayStation 3 actually DOES have dedicated VRAM. The Xbox 360 is actually the one that has to ALWAYS share RAM. The Xbox 360 relies on 512MB of GDDR3 RAM for all its memory. On the other hand, the PlayStation 3 uses 256MB of XDR DRAM and and 256MB of GDDR3 RAM, used by the Cell and RSX respectively. However, each of the processors can also access each other's RAM as needed.
Overall, the PlayStation 3 is indeed more 1337. The Xbox 360 Elite may be elite by Xbox standards, but it pales in comparison to the PlayStation 3. The PlayStation 3 has newer HDMI, internal Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 2.0, superior processor, next-generation optical storage, internal memory card readers, et cetera.
The piano black colour suits the PlayStation 3 better than the matte black suits the Xbox 360. And the PlayStation 3 has the most kickass games (Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, Final Fantasy XIII, Gran Turismo 5, et cetera).
The PS3 has 256MB of XDR clocked at 3.2Ghz and 256MB of GDDR3 clocked at 550Mhz, the GDDR3 is dedicated to the graphics card, but the graphics card can also access the XDR via a 1.3Ghz bus. So the PS3 has both dedicated and shared graphics memory. The 360 has 512MB of shared GDDR3 clocked at 700Mhz. The 360's video chip also has an internal 10MB eDram buffer for doing graphical tricks (free FSAA for example) but it is not "graphics memory" in the traditional sense. The bandwidth of the PS3's main memory is about twice that of the 360's (51GB/s vs 22GB/s). In terms of raw power, the PS3 is far ahead of the 360, and that is a fact plain and simple.
No numnuts the 360 gpu is just alittle better than the PS3's and the RSX can acces either section of RAM as needed so technically they have the same amount of RAM. The cell processor is a whole terflop faster than the 360's processor which more than makes up for the RSX's shortcommings.
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ph @ Apr 26th 2007 2:43PM
"Considering that the PS3 is still the more technically impressive of the two, it gets the nod. Plus the shiny beats the matte."
Actually, many people consider the xbox 360s processor to be superior to the PS3, as well as the fact that the xbox has dedicated video ram.
Silver R. Wolfe @ Apr 26th 2007 2:49PM
Except the PS3 does have the Cell CPU which is undeniably a very powerful and state-of-the-art processor.
Don't forget Blu-Ray either. While not a necessarily liked feature, it is quite a lot more |337 than the standard DVD drive in the Elite.
Hardtohit @ Apr 26th 2007 8:40PM
To PH ...Would these "many People" be retarded?
BrokenDesign @ Apr 26th 2007 3:47PM
@ ph: You've got it backwards, the PS3 has the RSX graphics card in it with 256mb of VRAM, whereas the 360 has 512mb of RAM that's being shared by both the processor and the on-board graphics chips. Not to mention the fact that each core of the Cell processor has a small amount of RAM that it can use. Technically, the PS3 has a much better chance of delivering better performance, it's up to the developers to deliver on the promise. If Sony provides good documentation then we could see the PS3 coming out with games that kick the crap out of 360 games within the next year or two. Especially if they release a revised version of the PS3 that has a faster Blu-Ray drive in it, allowing for much faster transfer speeds and shorter load times without game content installation to the hard drive.
coppi6976 @ Apr 27th 2007 8:04AM
Wrong!!360 has shared ram, ps3 has specific video ram
ThePunisher @ Apr 26th 2007 6:12PM
The PS3 has the same amount of 'video' RAM as the 360, it has 256mb GDDR3 RAM I believe, and 256mb XDR RAM, and XDR owns in RAM terms.
myscrnnm @ Apr 26th 2007 5:55PM
"Actually, many people consider the xbox 360s processor to be superior to the PS3, as well as the fact that the xbox has dedicated video ram."
That's not true at all. This isn't an opinion thing, it's either fact or fiction. And it's a fact that the PlayStation 3 is a technologically superior machine compared to the Xbox 360. Both the Xenon and CBEA are based on the POWER architecture. The Cell's PPE alone is already one-third of the Xenon's total power, and then you've got the seven SPEs. And based on calculations, the Cell is around twice as powerful as the Xenon, doing more than 2 TFLOPS.
Also, the PlayStation 3 actually DOES have dedicated VRAM. The Xbox 360 is actually the one that has to ALWAYS share RAM. The Xbox 360 relies on 512MB of GDDR3 RAM for all its memory. On the other hand, the PlayStation 3 uses 256MB of XDR DRAM and and 256MB of GDDR3 RAM, used by the Cell and RSX respectively. However, each of the processors can also access each other's RAM as needed.
Overall, the PlayStation 3 is indeed more 1337. The Xbox 360 Elite may be elite by Xbox standards, but it pales in comparison to the PlayStation 3. The PlayStation 3 has newer HDMI, internal Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 2.0, superior processor, next-generation optical storage, internal memory card readers, et cetera.
The piano black colour suits the PlayStation 3 better than the matte black suits the Xbox 360. And the PlayStation 3 has the most kickass games (Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, Final Fantasy XIII, Gran Turismo 5, et cetera).
tim @ Apr 26th 2007 7:29PM
The PS3 has 256MB of XDR clocked at 3.2Ghz and 256MB of GDDR3 clocked at 550Mhz, the GDDR3 is dedicated to the graphics card, but the graphics card can also access the XDR via a 1.3Ghz bus. So the PS3 has both dedicated and shared graphics memory. The 360 has 512MB of shared GDDR3 clocked at 700Mhz. The 360's video chip also has an internal 10MB eDram buffer for doing graphical tricks (free FSAA for example) but it is not "graphics memory" in the traditional sense. The bandwidth of the PS3's main memory is about twice that of the 360's (51GB/s vs 22GB/s). In terms of raw power, the PS3 is far ahead of the 360, and that is a fact plain and simple.
Jmoravetz @ Apr 27th 2007 8:23PM
Accually, the Xbox 360 is the one WITHOUT the dedicated video RAM. The PS3 has 256 video, and 256 generic. The xbox just uses 512 for everything.
Manny151 @ Apr 30th 2007 1:29PM
No numnuts the 360 gpu is just alittle better than the PS3's and the RSX can acces either section of RAM as needed so technically they have the same amount of RAM. The cell processor is a whole terflop faster than the 360's processor which more than makes up for the RSX's shortcommings.
badz @ Apr 30th 2007 8:14PM
well some people feel that leaving the toilet seat up is improper while others dont.
tell M$ to put folding@home on a 360 and get back to me